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Prices Creek-The Mystery Continues

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Postby Zachary » Fri May 06, 2005 4:30 pm


Looking at the recent photos of Prices Creek and an old one I have, I've noticed a few things which don't piece together.
The first thing is that in the old picture, the tower looks substantially shorter, in a more recent picture, I've also noticed a slight difference in the brick towards the top. Meaning, the tower must have been raised, but, if it was discontinued, why was it raised? If it was raised after the light was discontinued, why is the light-pole still at the top? And if the pole once held an optic in the center of a lantern cage, why is it in the corner of the tower. Also, if the top was replaced (which I'm certain it was), why would the pole still be there. One more question, if the tower was raised, why is there still an access hole in the top (see Stephen's photograph).
Here are 2 photos to compare, the old one is from Endangered Lighthouses and the recent one from somewhere on the internet, I've drawn an arrow where the brick changes.
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There is a possible solution, and that is that the picture in Endangered Lighthouses is not of Prices Creek, but, I doubt that.
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Postby beachbum1616 » Fri May 06, 2005 6:56 pm


Here is a photo from the opposite side.
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I am not sure if it helps or hurts your case. I hadn't noticed that obvious line before though. :-k
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Postby Zachary » Fri May 06, 2005 7:43 pm


Definetly helps, if you notice, it is further from the top of the door to the top of the tower in your picture than in the older pic. Do you have a picture of that area inside the tower?
Here's another old pic after the lantern room was removed and the square top was added.
It shows WAD (Without A Doubt) that the pole is in the corner of the tower. I wonder what happened to the Railing & Ladder though.
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Postby vacastle » Fri May 06, 2005 8:50 pm


Zackary, you've raised some very interesting questions.

What we do know is that the front range light was originally contracted to be 20' tall, and both the front and rear range lights utilized a sixth order Fresnel lens.

What I saw on the lower (lower two-thirds of the tower?) was a lot of mold that had blackened a great deal of the brick.

Also, the pole didn't appear to be so much to the side, as we've seen in photographs, or was that my imagination?

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Postby Zachary » Fri May 06, 2005 8:59 pm


Actually, If I may, I believe that before recieving a 6th Order Fresnel, the Front & Rear range lights had Lamps & Reflectors.
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Postby COTA » Sat May 07, 2005 7:42 am


I would also like to point out that the window framing is very different from the photograph of Zach's and Stephen's. The one B&W has an arched window, with seemingly straight/level areas, (where the girl is sitting), while the current one recedes from the bottom to the top (window framing). Plus, it does not have an arch at the top.

Can this really be the same lighthouse? Was it damaged in war at some point and rebuilt as much as from the windows to the top?

This is really a mind boggler. Hope we figure it out.

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Postby Zachary » Sat May 07, 2005 8:08 am


I think that in the 2nd B&W photo (with the girl), the arch is there just because the bricks are missing.
Does anyone know how long ADM has owned this property?

From the larger version of that photo, I cropped the area with the Pipe and the window, so you can see them in more detail
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Postby vacastle » Sat May 07, 2005 10:22 am


I'm not totally convinced this is the same light. There are too many differences, and no record of it having been rebuilt. The close-up of the pole is not even where it's located now. The arch is too perfect to be simply missing bricks.

Zackery, have you found something in print that refers to Price's Creek front & rear, having had lamps and reflectors prior to receiving the sixth order Fresnels? We have no record of that.

A real curiosity. But there were other range lights like these, or similar.

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Postby Zachary » Sat May 07, 2005 10:47 am


I am 100% Sure that the 2nd B&W photo is of The Prices Creek Range Front light, the top one however (from Endangered Lighthouses) may not be. There were 3 other sites with Range lights similiar to Prices Creek, it may be one of them, but, the 2nd one is definetly Prices Creek. I know because it came from John Harr's book North Carolina Lighthouses (Images on North America). (that is why I did not post it at full size).
As for it having reflectors, I found it somewhere, I can't remember where but I'll look.
(2)As for the tower having been rebuilt, it wasn't, but, ADM repaired the Civil War damage to it, and the way the pricks are placed on the tower, that arch is possible. Maybe it was original and ADM filled it in when they repaired the tower?
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Postby vacastle » Sat May 07, 2005 11:45 am


Zackary, Cheryl Shelton-Roberts and Bruce Roberts also have used the B &W photo (showing the girl) in their book published last year, North Carolina Lighthouses, A Tribute of History and Hope and state that this is how the light appeared in the early 20th century.

The truncated tower we see today is 20' tall, and when it was whole, it was five feet taller.

You are correct...it was not rebuilt or repaired (or any of the other range lights, for that matter) after the war.

Please let us know if you find something relating to a different type of lamp before it received its sixth order.

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Postby Zachary » Sat May 07, 2005 12:14 pm


vacastle wrote:Zackary, Cheryl Shelton-Roberts and Bruce Roberts also have used the B &W photo (showing the girl) in their book published last year, North Carolina Lighthouses, A Tribute of History and Hope and state that this is how the light appeared in the early 20th century.

The truncated tower we see today is 20' tall, and when it was whole, it was five feet taller.

You are correct...it was not rebuilt or repaired (or any of the other range lights, for that matter) after the war.

Please let us know if you find something relating to a different type of lamp before it received its sixth order.

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Are you sure it's shorter now then it was before? It seems the other way around, if the first pic in this thread is of Prices Creek, it is definetly taller now, if it's not, and the tower was shortened, why does the brickline change near the top of the tower and why does it stoill have an access hole?
As for the Reflectors
The small twenty-foot tall lighthouse is seventeen feet in diameter at the base with three foot thick walls at the bottom graduating to two feet at the top. The lantern room is gone now but originally it was fitted with eight lamps and eight fourteen inch reflectors when it was built in 1849. These were the Lewis Lamps that were in general use at the time and were not very effective. All the bricks for the lighthouse and the keepers house were thought to be brought over from England. Years later when the house was demolished many of the bricks were gathered up and used in the construction of a home in Southport.

http://www.bansemer.com/north_carolina_ ... thouse.htm

Also, the other sites that these range lights along Cape Fear river were established are Campbell's Island, Orton's Point and Oak Point
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