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Postby Biggy » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:46 pm


TenofHearts12 wrote:Do you for the most part take pictures that will represent "exactly" what you saw when you took the picture or something else? (just a question and not intended to offend or directed at anyone in particular)


TenofHearts ... Speaking solely about my approach to photography, I too try to capture what I see, not so much exactly -- because my camera hardly ever "sees" the same thing as my naked four eyes (my glasses are slightly tinted anyway) -- but more for the aesthetics. I try to capture the essence and feel of that particular moment and subject.

The truth is, coloring can change from one output device to another, and "generations" of data are sometimes interpreted differently when sent from camera to memory card, from memory card to computer and monitor, from computer and monitor to printer, and sometimes the colors involved are distorted to some degree. With digital, it's hard to shoot for an exact "look," because it is going to be digitized and slightly off in terms of color correctness (as compared to what you saw with the lenses of your eyes), definition (for those of us who are in need of new glasses for near-sightedness) and other technically impared occurrences.

Personally, I do very little to my photos compared to the process Gary explained in the beginning of this thread. In actuality, I usually slightly darken my images and slightly increase the contrast with the "brightness/contrast" function in Photoshop. I do this to slightly improve the colorization while adding some definition. Sometimes, I will auto-level an image to see what the program suggests, but hardly ever do I go with it because most of the time the colors get blown out and very saturated. With maybe half my images, I'll use the "unsharp mask" function to further define some of the finer details, like a bird flying by or the rails of a lantern room, things like that. Mostly, I "unsharp mask" at 25%, and occasionally go a little higher if I want a bit more definition to, let's say, the brickwork of a particular light. Other than these few minor details, and every once in a blue moon clone out a spec of sensor dust, I don't do anything else.

This is what works just for me. I can easily recommend doing things this way, but I know darned well most photographers will develop their own intricate regimen as to how they "process" their digital photos.

Hope my explanation helps a tad.
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Postby Gary Martin » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:46 pm


It's WHITE, Barry... I could set it to RGB 255,255,255 and make it perfecto if need be, but it's actually set as the white point at about 98%
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Postby Biggy » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:50 pm


Yeah, Gary ... It is white. But what's up with the varying shades of red on the lantern? LOL You don't have to explain it again. I'm just screwing with you because I know at some point you're going to use this stupid :!: excalamation point again. Talk about overplayed ... geez. 8)
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Postby Grover1 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:05 pm


Gary ... just poking some fun back at myself ...

"Ten" ... for what its worth ... for the most part, I shoot to record where I've been and what I've seen ... but now and again, thanks to those here, I've been inspired to try some stuff that wouldnt have occurred prior to my being here ...

I definitely wanted to be here at sunrise ...
<img src="http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/8499/barney0041nk2.jpg">

... and I definitely wanted to be here at sunset ...
<img src="http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1943/forchu2zy8.jpg">

... and hopefully, my sunrise at Nubble this past Sunday will produce a pleasing set of images as well ...
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Postby Gary Martin » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:06 pm


No problem, Barry... but...

Run, David... Run fast :!:
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Postby Gary Martin » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:12 pm


Anyway, going around the north end of the inner breakwater off Lewes, DE, you get a shot of the breakwater marker and the Delaware Breakwater light off in the distance. (And it darned well better be the right shade of red for you Barry :!: LOL) If it's not, too bad... the black point was set under the little wharf and I had a white point under the stairs so that's what you get! LOL

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Flinging it right back at you, Barry....

Gee I wonder if Carole is going to totally disagree with my sense of humor :?:
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Postby Biggy » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:21 pm


Gary ... Probably.

And by the way ... I'm still standing here :!: Now what? :twisted:

And are you sure you set the points right in that Breakwater photo? =))

Hey, Barry ... If you don't really like the shades of red in Gary's photos, you just say so and let him deal with it :!: =)) =)) =))

This is getting really fun, now. Oh, Carole ... :lol:
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Postby Gary Martin » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:22 pm


Then there's Harbor of Refuge... Never any 15 foot waves rolling over the breakwater when you need them... Anyway, this one's for Hersh since his website is Harbor of Refuge.com.

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Postby Gary Martin » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:25 pm


Yeah, Biggy, and your Barnegat light photo had the lightning cloned in :!: I hear there's a plug in for that that you're using, and oh BTW, the color of RED is wrong anyway :!:

=)) =)) =))

:-j

And at 53 posts and 450 views... this is the most fun we've had with a thread in a long time :!:
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Postby Gary Martin » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:31 pm


And while we're throwing down the color gauntlet, where are all these June photos to SHOW me what color Ship John Shoal is supposed to be Barry, David, and Rocky :?:
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Postby Biggy » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:36 pm


Gary, you truly do have a sense of humor :!: Perhaps you can give a course in how to amuse oneself :?: :?:

And yeah, why is the WHITE gull poop on Ship John so blown out in that second "finished" photo you posted :?: :idea: Must be some kind of bulls**t you're doing with that imaging program of yours :!: :twisted:
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Postby Biggy » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:39 pm


Hey, man ... I'm not the one who said it wasn't that RED :!: I never said one critical thing about your photo. 8O
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Postby Biggy » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:52 pm


And hey, Gary ... If you've got time to stop down at the Wildwood Convention Center this weekend, I'm doing a show there. You can see for yourself what color Ship John is in the print I'm going to have available for sale. But if you can't make it, here's a hint ... it's RED :!: Just not that red. =)) =))

I will post soon enough to show you better what I mean.
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Postby rocky5128 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:07 pm


The color in my pictures were closer to your random shot picture. Thanks for the explanation on the adjustments. I usually don't do anything with my pictures, unless I auto correct the exposure or something.I have never tried to do that with any of my pictures, so it is nice to have an idea of what how the color level indicators are used. I would really appreciate a tutorial on the black and white points.

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Postby Grover1 » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:32 am


Post June trip, I was deferring to Dave and Kathy to post their lighthouse shots. I instead, I went the "shipping in the Delaware" route for our Great Lakes friends ...

http://www.lighthousing.net/modules.php ... pic&t=6798

I did stick this one at the end as it combined two lights ... a tanker, kind of a reflection, AND Gary's gull ...

<img src="http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8918/ship8jc6.jpg">

... Ship John? ... damn, I havent felt this much pressure since I was at the altar some 30 years ago ... here's one ...

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